This is a larp. “We need adventure!” Refuses to go work in the oil patch. You will meet rough men there believe me. You could join the marine corps, there are rough but more civilized men there. Army infantry or any other MOS, can get you a deployment. Navy, they sail 6 months out of the year all over the world. But you wanna be a roving maruader? Shut the hell up dude. The cartel will kill you, real men understand that chaos is not preferable because then you see real carnage and that isn’t something anyone wants to see. You are an internet larper pretending to be a man. I can tell you there are not alot of uni grads in the oil patch. If you really want adventure there is contract work in foreign countries where they pay very good money. But you aren’t a man, you can’t deal with real danger. So you’re gonna start robbing grandmas and women. May you receive your full wage if you travel that path. If it is so, the lawman will return and there is no civility for the uncivil.
The Jews have switched tactics and now need to refresh their white soldiers because they are preparing to send them into a meat grinder called WW3, which should finish off all of these retards who decided they just want to fight somewhere. Wait until you realize you are surrounded by automated units and not a human being for a hundred miles about to be vaporized by direct energy weapons steered by AI units. Turns out that you snooze, you lose.
I think he’s actually in, did you read the article?
It’s coming anyway, and good. Fighting is survival.
The “Cartel” BTW LOL are vendors getting the heave ho, so by all means let’s let Americans do their own work.
They want to be men is all, this is ancient and timeless and eternal.
The freakish aberrations of the last century are dying and as it was all lies, let it die and let Men be Men, regardless of the “laws” which are 110% Longhouse. Gynarchy.
Unless you are a psychopath I don’t think any normal man wants to witness the kind of brutality that an anarchy can produce. Cartels don’t have mercy and they don’t discriminate. You morons think that a recession of the US Gov means more freedom but you don’t recognize that mexican cartels have the armaments, the logistics, and the will to dominate in lawless environments. You will not be a bandido, you will just be a poor bastard working like all the other poor bastards in mexico.
I don’t know what you mean by recession of the US government … and frankly since you’re so pleasant I DGAF.
I absolutely know what anarchy looks like in several places worldwide.
The current US government is restoring order along the border and seeing off the cartels… the exact opposite of the previous administration and a reversal of American policy of decades of at least accepting chaos in Mexico in exchange for it being absorbed into the USA economically and eventually politically.
Since you’re dense; The Mexican Cartels are Vendors - OUR VENDORS. That’s why I said they are vendors. We’ve been destabilizing Mexico with a variety of means for 40 years, the Drugs like the destruction of their agricultural economy and the subsequent migration north while building up a modern economy in all respects in Mexico- to our cost in Industry and the ravages of drugs. In terms of “recession” yes these policies are “receding” and we’re ending our vendor relationship. Since you mention “psychopath” the policy now being reversed by Trump pretty much fits psychopathic.
Now if that was order let us have anarchy.
As far as the rising of the young and the desire of young soldiers for action… this is natural and healthy. What isn’t healthy is gerontocracy and miserable old men and women turning America into a nightmare version of Asian slavery without any of Asia’s mitigating values like family. The young deserve their chance, they don’t have to go abroad to fight (as we all secretly sense) and I say this as a 58 year old combat veteran- I don’t care if we have to burn it all down for them to live, including if they have to burn or slay me.
Never mind the contempt I feel for Boomer Pensioners who sold us all out, or if Social Security goes bust, and if any group of Americans can’t defend themselves from lowlifes with yes a respectable amount of small arms - then perish.
Or form your own “cartel.”
BTW it isn’t the elderly I scorn here, it’s the selfishness. Almost beyond belief, moral senility.
… so you see we are past the Bourbon “Apres Moi…” this is the Deluge.
He is speaking from the Deluge. He’s absolutely a soldier if one cannot read.
He and the other rising young mean America lives , which makes sacrifice worthwhile- at last.
What you seem to be missing is that men like him, and men like me aren’t LARPers. We have the opinions we have and make the proclamations we profess because we HAVE seen what occurs when a few more socio-political milestones are reached in the wrong direction. We’ve seen children perished from wars of men be devoured by feral dogs. We’ve seen cities leveled. We’ve seen tiny arms and legs horrifically protruding from piles of rubble.
You believe what? That we’re all just blood thirsty and maladjusted because we’re what? Bored? Dumb? Unaccomplished? Racist? Bigoted? 🤣🤣🤣
Here’s the thing- you are telling yourself this because your existence and indeed any semblance of security you feel, hinges upon it being true. You believe this because it’s the only thing you can believe. If you’re wrong, you end up being someone’s slave or someone’s lunch, or simply a memory- so you’re blindly invested in being right.
Conversely, people like me desperately want to be wrong about where we think this is all headed. We think this because we have seen where it goes if our gut feelings are correct.
In the end all this blathering and sniveling verbal pugilism means jack shit. You are either prepared or unprepared; trained or untrained. From my 30 years of observation, people like you are dependent upon a bureaucracy because you are unprepared and untrained. Your comments cement your status as such.
Don't know who you are but I will cover your six, keep firing reality at these idiots. That "bloodlust" is a sodomite obsession and has nothing to do with soldiers and patriotism.
I just call it like I see it. The reality is that the people calling for the most violence are the people that would fall the fastest in a societal collapse scenario. Look how quickly these smarmy, cowardly sacks turned on one another and encouraged family members to narc on one another for not “following regulations” during the “pandemic”. I could give more examples.
I don’t blame them for being vociferous and hostile. The gravy train is over, and it’s gonna sting a little bit. But they’re not threatening anymore because their cultural influence, which was where they derived most of their power is waning fast. This is just entertainment now as what they mock seems like it’s less ludicrous and has more potential to manifest. Watching their fear express itself in ridicule of that which they are most afraid is borderline irresistible. I can’t help but indulge once in a while.
You are, like so many others, one who should listen more than speak. You got two ears and one mouth for a reason. Violence is part of human nature and the cowards who hide feom it are oft the victims of its resurgence from repressive societies. Good luck
Wrong answer New York Times subscriber. I’ll eat a bullet before that happens. Mine or someone else’s. There’s a reason why savages don’t become slaves you soft little waffle.
You sound jealous that younger men are ready to be more violent than you were ever able to be. My Germanic ancestors were absolutely violent when the time called for it and they never hesitated. This is where it is true in human nature. They conquered the world. Odin's frenzy is abundant in Germanic men.
He is not actually in the military. He has an army in Minecraft. It's in the text. Color me unimpressed.
"In the big 2025 (as I hear the tik tok crowd say), this path is not rewarding either. Generally, you follow this path. You join and go through intense training, some (like myself in my Minecraft server) choose to go through more rigorous and difficult training. You then find yourself in the infantry going to field ops to either shoot on golf course maneuver ranges or fire blanks at each other. Your biggest concerns? Range safety, expenditure reports, and making sure your boss whose chasing 20 years looks good so he gets good reports and makes the next rank. Are you concerned with the guys under you being lethal and ready to fight in a war? Well, your bosses aren’t; and boot blouses and mustaches are more likely to get them yelled at by their bosses so that’s what you’ll focus on."
As IQ has dropped two full deviations, the remnant half-wits now think that war is all that is left for them - and they've never even been soldiers. Right around the 250 year mark, just in time to end up in the mass grave.
These are the typical tail end of a declining society.
In fact, the noble virtues are all that ever distinguished us from sh*tty little third world countries that have been fighting for centuries without surcease. But the Minecraft contingent know how to save us.
These guys didn't have dads, so they've turned to nonsense internet LARP and action movies to try to figure out what masculinity is- and it's turning them into emotionally weak narcissistic monsters, not strong men like they think they are- because they wouldn't even know one if they met one. Every single person that writes crap like this on the internet doesn't know how to lift heavy things, fix a car, build a house, or lead a group with vision, integrity, strength, and kindness. They wouldn't be so frustrated and angry with life if they had useful skills people admired, that led to fulfilling jobs and relationships.
Indeed. It's a pity that something like Boy Scouts is in decline, because we need it more than ever to teach men useful skills and leadership. People need to kick their boys off of Halo and make them shit in the woods.
Exactly- the solution is for men to mentor boys before they grow up to be like this. Being good dads, scoutmasters, community and religious leaders, etc. They need someone to give a shit about them, and give them real skills that will build self esteem and personal power. I was a Boy Scout myself, and your comment and this guys post has inspired me to become a scoutmaster in my community. I remember hearing about the guy who runs the "Art of Manliness" blog, Brett McKay teaches powerlifting classes to the boys at his church.
That's awesome. My husband is a cubmaster and I think it's a service to the world. We have destroyed a lot of culture and not replaced it with a positive message to boys on how to be men. Scouts was designed to be that, and it is still a great program. Good luck!
I agree. I’m a QC specialist for a real- estate developer and the young man that I’m working with, who is mid 20s and a superintendent on a massive project was an Eagle Scout. He’s polite, measured, well-adjusted, kind and skilled. It would be difficult for me to believe that organization had nothing to do with shaping him that way.
If you think a nation of young men that didn’t have fathers and didn’t grow up learning good habits from balanced men isn’t a problem, I invite you to study human history. Any of it.
Making fun of people that might be dangerous if the country takes a worse economic downturn, or are driven out of work by technology- AI, self-driving technology, low level tech support jobs etc, isn’t going to do much other than make you feel superior until your next insult.
Right now in the US, there are more young men that didn’t have fathers that have somewhat bleak prospects for leading a fulfilling life than not.
So make fun of them because they act out on the internet. That seems like something compassionate and helpful to do. Also, one more thing to consider; if you’re on the left side of the political aisle, you should hope for less disaffected young men in your polity. The disaffected ones predominantly vote right. The ones that are doing well predominantly do not.
I'm not making fun of them, but I am holding them responsible if they are awful people, even if I do understand how that came to be. If you look at my comment and followup comments, it's something I care deeply about, and am doing everything I can to mentor and get involved in boys like this' lives, before they grow up and become like the person that wrote this post, someone that admits that they want to be a soldier because murder sounds fun. The reason I used the tough, ridiculing tone I did with this guy is because it's on his same wavelength, I think it's the only way a message could connect with him. If someone is nice and courteous to him, people like this would only see that as weakness, and dismiss them.
Oh yeah. My mistake. This seems like simply holding them accountable and 100% in good faith:
“These guys didn't have dads, so they've turned to nonsense internet LARP and action movies to try to figure out what masculinity is…”
Your assumption without knowing that to be true, and then pejoratively throwing it out there says more about you than him. It was meant to ridicule and insult and you goddamned well know it. I love it when people do this. It means I can easily dismiss and ignore you.
Ignore and dismiss anyone you want. What I said was mean. However, I can see from your comments that you care about this issue also, and if anyone is going to reach these guys it's going to be someone more like Gunnery Sergeant Hartman than anyone else, that tells it to them straight.
Ironically, difficult, fatherless childhoods are more often than not the catalyst necessary to produce men with enough anger that they can feign it to such perfection that it becomes a tool for training other men to be able to end strangers’ lives without ruining their own.
Go figure.
There are numerous books published since the end of the Vietnam War until now that outline this dynamic in great detail- with gobs of psych research undergirding the assertions that the authors and social scientists make in them.
Unless you’re willing to argue with all of that research and then do enough of your own to make a viable counter hypothesis (of which there exists very little at this time), then you are essentially saying simultaneously that fatherless men are a problem, yet also a solution.
Seems like you’re woefully ignorant when it comes to masculinity and the male psyche. Perhaps you should either read more, or relegate your arguments to the arena of fitness, on which you are undoubtedly more knowledgeable.
> “These guys didn't have dads, so they've turned to nonsense internet LARP and action movies to try to figure out what masculinity is…”
What about that is not accurate?
(oh, and lest you trip on this, "didn't have dads" doesn't imply they were abandoned. Just that they didn't have role models in their Gen X/Millenial fathers, whether divorced or not).
It’s not accurate first of all because it’s just an insult. There’s no way she could know what this guy’s relationship was with his father. So it’s not accurate because it’s probably not accurate.
Secondly, human beings respond differently to stress, trauma, abandonment, etc. The assertion being made here is fatherlessness = LARPing which = delusional. A simple and thoughtless calculation meant to entertain the writer of the comment and nothing more.
And oh, by the way, unless he’s fucking dead, a father not being in his kid’s life through no fault of the child, has abandoned that child. As things stand domestically, there’s a hell of a lot more deadbeat dads than dead dads.
Wigga all of us who say this are either Infantry, Marines, or SOF. There is no fighting happening right now. Our friends in the Navy got to blow up a fuckton of Houthis because Hegseth (begrudgingly) said so after Europe pretty promised to pay us back for the favor. We run lanes against noone, and go home to jerk off. We don't even do wargames anymore! My detachment dropped our annual gamepod because our newly assigned Col "didn't see the training value" in it! Literally bought a gas blowback replica M4 for this shit just to have it ripped away...
Truthnuke, counterpoint, no deployments = regular ass schedule once you finish pipeline, at least according to the TACP I know. You do realize that STOs are, at the end of the day, officers, who end up doing a lot of the same stuff in peacetime, right?
This guy is a pogue retard AT BEST. The statements he makes betrays that fact about himself. If this asshat had ever served in ANY combat unit, or any combat support unit EVER, he’d know that there is a TON of time spent waiting. Also, if you’re not deployed or on a field op, have no wife or family, the military affords single men lots of time to read, play video games, work out, etc. Responding to dipshit beta jerkoffs like this weenie making stupid assertions founded in zero evidence or experience that utter phrases like “trans genocide” and “white complicity” is among the worst way to spend one’s time.
The point is the young men - no longer “males” of 2-3 generations are suddenly men again as the liberal oppression collapses and they are understandably coming to take what’s theirs- not that it was going to be given.
I prefer cocky green kid to “you will own nothing and be happy, eat the paste, live in pods.”
For they banished nature but HE has returned.
I’ve made this point repeatedly over time.
Moreover if any people’s young men aren’t seeking danger and conflict that people are going extinct- exactly as was happening, exactly as was
It is what it is, it’s the story of man eternally. *
I think this is to be preferred to lay down and die passively eating bug paste in pods whacking to porn, the other prior regimes mandate.
*also eternal “you young punk you ain’t done nothing “ … 🤣 well not yet. That’s actually his complaint, Old timer. 🤣
Yes, we were young and full of 💩 too, or at least I was…
Of course he’s chafing at the bit. Of course he hates the bureaucracy (I still do) of course the paper pushers and safety geeks get on his nerves.
They certainly got on mine. Still do.
Of course he’s chafing to fucking prove himself and won’t learn patience until the enemy and strife teach him.
Be happy after all the sludge physical and moral that anyone shows up. The alternative is extinction, the prior regime has made that clear.
Pick your poison ; smart ass but shows up or …. Lay down and die, and we sacrificed for nothing.
Choose your champion here; it’s Karen and 💉 OR MushMouth the smart ass kid (as if we weren’t!! ). Well, I was.
I hear you. Learn to communicate more concisely young man. Also there is a whole spectrum between adventurous risk taker and beta boot licker. That’s where most reside.
What John Freeman said. There are a lot of options for dangerous jobs out there. Complaining on the internet because your parents didn't set you up for one is... bizarre.
Danger is not the topic. Full expression of human nature and potential is. The repression of human nature, such that every male is made to be feminized, is a serious deprivation of potential. Taxi driving is more dangerous than being a cop, but isn't a fulfilling enterprise for a warrior.
Okay, but if you recognize the problem in yourself, there's not much preventing you from addressing it.
Become a cop.
Become a hired gun.
Work the oil fields -- they still exist.
Become a bush pilot in Alaska. They're quite in demand.
Work a deep-sea fishing ship.
No parent in their right mind is going to purposely set their kid up for a dangerous life, but if that's what you need to get your blood pumping well, it's a free world. Use the internet to take charge of your life instead of just complaining about it.
Of course I can already see the next post about how men have to do all the dirty work and are disposable to society, etc.
Restraining myself from just calling you a retard is tough, but I'm trying.
Every single time someone responds to a social question with a "why don't you go and do..." they are copping out of the question. It's a social question not a "what am I personally doing right now question"
Complaining about things and expecting other people to fix them is exactly the childish, effeminate culture we decry on the far left. Stop waiting for "society" and "government" to fix all problems. Go out there and fix them yourself.
Recruit for the army. Run a Venture Scout troop. Teach teens to lift weights. Join Richard Reeves's think tank.
Being a keyboard warrior who only has complaints and no real solutions is not manly.
> Danger is not the topic. Full expression of human nature and potential is.
And you think that happens in war?
Real men who actually fought in WWI, WWII, or even Vietnam thought the exact opposite. That is was senseless carnage, and not "the full expression" of their nature.
Go start a family. Don't like modern American girls? Find court, and marry one in a traditional society. Go start a business in some African or Asian country. Not enough danger and excitement? Go help fight the cartels in Latin America. Go in Antarctica for scientific expeditions. Drive a truck in Alaska. Join a fishing crew. Explore the Amazon and get friendly with the tribes. Become a street cop.
Those that ask for deployments of war, have a movie/game/fairy-tale idea of them.
Western civilization was built by our forefathers. Our recent grandfathers and fathers are by and large giving up everything to women and foreigners. This has created a massive transfer of wealth, opportunity, and everything else our civilization once offered to young men.
If you think this is ok, then you are blind. We will not stand for this. Its that simple. We will not be dispossessed. Trying to blame us, trying to gaslight us, trying to moralize liberalism, trying to ignore our complaints, all that does is create more of us.
The West needs the young men of the West. Its that fucking simple. We will not slave for banks and foreigners. We will not be policed by women and cucks. We would rather join our forefathers in Heaven and Valhalla after dying in some sordid swamp fighting savages.
Get that through your head. We want what our fathers gave away.
Y'know the story of the Prince who has his kingdom usurped by his uncles, so he goes on a long journey to find himself then returns to get revenge? Well, imagine that but on a societal scale.
That's why when you try to blame individual men for our response to this, it falls flat. Our entire racial youth have been disinherited. The boys will rebel first. Then the girls will follow. The hippies of the 60-70’s rebelled against tradition. The kids do today rebel against the hippies. Its simple, really.
So you missed it again. You are not being serious. We are going to build anew. We are already organizing. There are good older men who helped pave the way. Thankfully, we have thousands of years of examples to pull inspiration from.
I meant this plane of existence. We’ve been poisoned enough.
You see Treason - You’ve actually done your worst and you’re down to ankle biting. Really you should have let us run on ahead, now we’ll have to stomp you.
I know you think you sound grand, but mostly you sound like someone with a sandwich board standing on the corner of Times Square. You don't know a damn thing about me and we are here to discuss the article. Ad hominems are the refuge of the uninformed.
I tried but it was the whole thing. He says that in the past he could have gone to work in oil fields for some danger. As if we don't drill oil any more.
Then he creates an entirely theoretical career arc through the military and finds it unfulfilling. As if there's no danger involved in training African militants. Or anyway, not enough. Or not the right kind. It has to be right sort of military experience. The kind in movies, I would guess. Or video games.
I agree it was hard to follow and a little fast and loose but some of it did resonate with me. I don’t share his perspective, but I understand the sentiment. However, there were two main grievances, danger and adventure. Not just danger.
I understand. There's a reason Alaska is so skewed male. And there's a reason people (mostly men) take up base jumping and the like. I appreciate that there is a real need for regular injections of adrenaline into many lives.
But I did not get the feeling that the OP was engaging with this problem in a good-faith way. He simply discards all his options as "not dangerous enough." There is no point at which he advances a narrative where he's tried any of it. (His military experience appears to be in a Minecraft sim.)
I was recently on a boat full of people who, conversely, had taken steps to inject adventure into their lives. They were not rich.
The boat's pilot was a woman who left a life of housecleaning because she decided it was time to start living for herself.
Her son was teaching a group to be scuba instructors. The would-be instructors were hoping to leave their deadening jobs for one that enables greater adjacency to adventure. (Sure, you spend most of your time keeping tourists alive, but after hours you and your friends can go visit the cool, dangerous wrecks and break all the rules.)
This article, rather, reminds me of being a kid complaining I'm bored on a summer's day and then discarding every single idea my mother proposes. My goal wasn't to be entertained, it was to be a pain in the butt.
While the need for danger and adventure may be a powerful male experience, the difference between "man" and "boy" is in who takes charge of their life vs who lashes out and blames others.
Yeah, if anything, I come away from reading that with the sentiment that the author needs to elaborate and extrapolate. That’s almost a book-worthy topic based on breadth alone, but the ideas are a bit spastic and not explained well enough.
Like I said, because I understand the gist of what he’s trying to get across , because I’ve had similar lines of contemplation, I can glean context that most people that read this will be unable to.
Our real problem is too few men fierce about protecting our civilization no matter what and too many of these 'net heroes running around in plastic replica viking helmets.
I've been shot at and I don't want to do it again and I don't want havoc ... it leads to nothing but worse havoc. This guy has watched too many capeshit and war movies and thinks real life is a video game. No heterosexual male wants to kill foreigners. It's horrible stuff and if you don't think so ask yourself why 80% of combat troops deliberately miss in battle and if they hit anything, they become alcoholics who blow their brains out a few years later. That won't happen if you are defending your own nation but modern males are cuck pussies who do critique of their own nations and celebrate the "other."
Ten-to-one odds that this guy has never been punched in the face and knocked down.
Who cares about foreign nations when our own is collapsing inside into anarchy? That's too close to home and too real so this guy has to masturbate imagining himself on foreign soil killing random males.
By the way, U.S. War College research going back to the 1800's shows that the desire to kill strangers is yoked at the hip to latent homosexuality. They're almost one and the same thing. Queers have friendly fire incidents at 7-to-1 ratio to real soldiers. They never fail to squeeze the trigger before identifying, that's why they are a huge liability and that's why the Army never wanted them as recruits.
These dudes are larpers. I haven’t met any dude who participated in combat that glorified it or was happy they were in that situation. The only people I meet who want to tell everyone about their deployment didn’t experience combat.
Combat vet here. I do not agree. Some revel in the shit. I don't tell people about my experiences so much, but only fags are averse to combat when combat is the only solution left. Shit is so fucked these days it's beyond cowardice to not do what is right and necessary.
You missed the point of the piece: the author is detailing human nature in a f*cked up society. The BLM/Antifa riots were this generation’s boot camp. Carmelo Anthony was ripe for recruitment.
This is a very well put together article. I'm not even that young, but I too feel I've been deprived of fundamental experiences and opportunities by the bureaucratic state. I don't want it any more. I'd gladly take up arms on behalf of a greater power if there's a chance that at the end of it I could actually achieve fundamental resources. Even the networking of such of an adventure would be worth it. Lord Miles simply teasing the idea and shitposting has raked in tremendous interest.
Doesn't hurt that I've been on the 'monarchy is the way' arc for the last year. Nothing would make me happier than assisting to set up a modern western neo-monarchy on behalf of King Miles.
I think its very telling that were at the point of someone like Lord Miles being the best option… I think hes hilarious but a bit insane to think of him as a ruler
Waiting. Trump is interlude, he has done the vital part of young cadres. He is also setting us up for success. He will fail on Law - that’s the failure point all along.
He may know this, his real problem is not cowardice but an aversion to bloodshed.
I would not plan on any time frame. The Color Revolution machinery was set in motion here in 2019 to get Trump and is still running. Tectonic plates were already moving and the Chaos Rentier crowd decided to “work from home” then failed ultimately. Ever the child psychopath’s they start fires, they don’t build. 2028 is not a planning date, there are none. Even an Event calendar or IF-THEN doesn’t work.
If you want more on my schizo predictions look up my "reformation" article on my substack. We'll see how close I am in my analyses in a few years, and you can make fun of me then.
Help me out here. Bureaucracy hasn’t eliminated war. Is your complain that it’s eliminated risk? I agree that the whole “safety first” culture has gone way too far. But adults are free to pursue adrenaline recreationally.
You focus on the military for obvious reasons. But in all things, the over 50 year olds have denied the young dudes opportunities that ARE for the young bucks in a healthy society.
Look to Hollywood. Name 10 recognizable straight male actors under 35. I bet you can't, yet they still cast Robert De Niro as the street tough guy, Tom Cruise as the super spy sprinting across the screen, and George Clooney as the leading man hunk. These men are all at least 60 years old. It's ludicrous, almost profane to watch for a young man seething with this virility you write about.
Do you know how old Steven Speilberg was when he directed Jaws? 26. That's right, he was 26 when given his big shot. Did he pass on the torch, give talented young guys similar opportunities? Nope, he (now 78) gatekeeps the film industry and elevated his coffee girl of similar age--Kathleen Kennedy, an avowed misandrist. In her Indiana Jones movie, Indy is a miserable divorced loser who pleads for his superior niece to leave him to die in the literal past (time travel is involved). She knocks him out with a punch and saves him. We men under 40 all know this story was crafted carefully, meticulously, by the old to break the soul of the young. Not one line of the script was a mistake.
Every aspect of American civilization has become like this; the youngblood reduced to tenement wage slaves who support the increasingly deranged lifestyles and ambitions of the geriatrics. Making their lattes. Maintaining their estates. Stocking their food. Protecting them from violence. Increasing their profits. In the natural world, we would've easily overpowered and physically dethroned these frail, cowardly coots long ago. More typically they'd have graciously stepped aside to honorable supporting roles where they could do a lot of good and in exchange live in dignity and security.
All this to say, I think the pressure building with the younger dudes is less about there being no new continents to settle. I think with every day we in America see clearly who our oppressors are--the silver haired with all the gold. I don't know what's going to happen, but it ain't going to stay like this much longer.
Great insight, I think you’re spot on. With both my argument (and my life) took the idea of adventure to the logical extreme of being martial.
There are very few things a man in his 20’s can do that aren’t being a wageslave and this is a cry that even the supposed exit button of the infantry is just another path to microsoft teams.
Caesar wept when saw all Alexander had done by his age.
I relate to your drive to adventure, it's what motivated me to try out commercial fishing in Alaska and the PNW, climb mountains, n all kinds of shit. Even write--although the publishing world doesn't make it easy. That fire is potent stuff and is supposed to propel functioning civilizations upward. But we live in a time when the soft, greedy, mentally deranged oldies fear the fire--try to extinguish it with everything they got. Weaponize their pets (certain trained college chicks, rainbow people, illegal immigrants) to attack us.
Their effort is futile. You can spend literally trillions like they have to dim the fire for a time, but it never goes out.
It’s falling apart now of old age and its own horrific dysfunctions.
They’ll be no shortage of work for the Infantry or The Worker*. Both have been artificially suppressed for decades by our predatory ruling system and it’s over.
It is in the transition your cohort will rise.
Although Trump has done the vital thing of creating young cadres, several thousand now, full of dynamic leadership, the notion that the collapse of the old 1945 system will not create shockwaves and wars is too far a reach.
As far as them clipping your wings and your nuts - it’s over. They discovered too late they needed men and to offer something beyond wageslave or email cubicleStan to go home to the pods, bug paste and porn.
Something very different happened. A movement arose against this unnatural monstrosity and then a man rose to lead the movement.
We can call it “MAGA” but it’s really just being MEN again. Instead of “males” and “rational economic units” .
So rise and strike , all in your way.
PS … don’t write off Space at all. Think of our future, that’s it.
To respond to your territorial ambitions; you can go in this Hemisphere South or with far greater danger North, we cannot advance further in Asia because of Nukes.
Excellent insight Mr. Comer. What has been done and is still being done is one of the worst crimes against mankind in history, murder would be swifter and kinder.
I reckon complementary forces of destruction and creation of some kind will happen. But it ain't going to stay like this--it never does. The men under 40ish or so seem to be the axis upon which what to come shall spin... or maybe I'm full of shit, HA!
I joined the Australian army a few years post-Vietnam at the age of 17. We had just got out of that war, but I assumed another would come along shortly. I wanted to go places and fight, and kill foreigners, and get paid to do it. What a bargain! I wanted to drink beer with other young men and do things that would mean I had a place of respect as a man among those men.
As it turned out, we had ten years of peace. I trained and trained but I never got to go to war. And after only ten years my body was starting to give way under the strain, so I gave it away. My knees and lower back still remind me of my service every day.
My point is, you are correct. I'm in my 60s now, but given the choice, I would do it all over again. I understand young men who want it now. Men who are infatuated with sex have simply never experienced belt-federal weapons.
I'm 55 and I have been saying this for years... what we are doing to our kids will have serious repercussions. The world we leave them, kids starting their life with debt out of school, housing unaffordable, the ridiculous social norms, nature messed up and don't get me started on the whole electronic surveilance...
Yup. It'll flip though. The cowards of today will breed the warriors of tomorrow because the environment will shape them by necessity. Most men are ubereffeminate today. Just stay steadfast and ready to teach those to come. They'll need it
This reads like someone trying to justify their inability to find meaning.
There are more wars today than in the last 30 years and we have magic boxes will the accumulation of all human knowledge in our pockets. You are painting a fire on your walls and calling the fire department.
I am not going to say it is always easy to find an internal drive and certainly our magic connected boxes have made it harder. What remains true is that the issues you write about are made up, either maliciously to cause chaos or because you haven't a clue how the world works.
It’s not just about dying in a war dumbass, it’s about dying for a cause. Dying for Ukraine for what? So the woman can study the queer theory of kollyva? Dying in the Sahel for some warlord who no one will remember two days after his regime ends? We want a noble cause that is worthy of our blood.
Spoken like someone who has never been damaged by war. Wounded combat veterans see articles like this as performative propaganda for an ideal of masculinity that will end badly for those dumb enough to take it seriously.
Young men need the concept of a nation to be revived. Something to live, fight and die for. Not by aggressively attacking other countries but by building a glorious society. The nation can dignify even mundane work. But in Australia where I live politicians are too afraid to even mention the word.
Young men need to get moving and stop for nothing, and Gen Xers like me can be the breach element. We have nothing better to do , and even graying men owe it to the young to give them their shot.
An entire civilization was reorganized around ruining and exploiting their own children and seed and we Xers know and being given one last chance to throw it down.
Why aren't they lining up to fight in Ukraine?? If Orwell could rush to Spain, surely all these warriors lusting for blood and bullets can find their way to the Dnipro.
I know people who have gone to Ukraine. Some seemed to enjoy it, another got killed by an FPV drone. This does seem an OK option but realistically its hard to really support either side and hard to trust you won’t be cannon fodder on the front line.
Realistically the conflict probably won’t last a whole lot longer OR you are going to be volunteering to get thrown into a hopeless fight (could be wrong).
Fight for their own? But the author says "People join the military to kill people." You can kill people by joining the fight in Ukraine. Hell, if you have incredibly low moral standards, you could even join the Russian side and kill people!
Fight for their own? But the author classifies 80-90% of people as NPCs and normies who "till the fields and make graphs on excel". Is that who you want to die for? Or maybe you're willing to die for the 10% of men who reject "simplicity" and feel a greater calling? I don't see those 10% shifting much across borders, so here again, why not go fight in Ukraine?
The author says "realistically its hard to really support either side and hard to trust you won’t be cannon fodder on the front line". But wait, you joined the military to kill people. You also explicitly mention that infantry is the real deal. You're telling me a modern conflict between, say, the US and China wouldn't set you up as cannon fodder on the front line? Where are you supposed to kill people and fulfill your manly destiny if not on the front line?
I understand that you're searching for meaning. You joined the army and discovered that there isn't any fighting to do. You slowly discovered, just like the rest of us, that modern society doesn't infuse you with meaning, rather it is concerned with keeping you relatively docile and in a constant state of consumption.
Only you're experiencing society from the outside looking in - you're military, not a civilian, and your sense of belonging is very strong due to that unique experience. You easily fall into the trap of believing that a crushing majority of people have a meaningless life, a simple life, but that you're fit to fulfill a much greater purpose, if only someone would let you... Ignoring the fact that that someone is you (you could get up and join the fight in Ukraine, or elsewhere), you eagerly wait for the downfall of civilization where your killing services would be needed. You then construct an entire view of your self around that purpose, and around that event. It's always right around the corner, and to echo other comments under this article, that's when real men will get to be real men. In essence, your view of manhood is bound by the choices of a select few powerful men to sign papers that say "we are going at war with this people". If you don't come up with an alternative view for your manhood and how you can self-realize, and the big fight you're waiting for doesn't happen (or happens when you're 45 or something), you're in for a rough time.
This is problematic. However it’s the fight of Ukrainians, not Americans.
Now if you have gone and fought in Ukraine, I will respect facing danger.
If you’re trying to get our young soldiers out of the country to die for a DC money laundering operation, or to demoralize our young, I won’t respect it.
He’s American.
He should fight for our country, and he should fight on our soil (I’m quite willing to) and for his future. Not for this sick system that robs the youth of everything, including manhood.
I think perhaps we both know who the thieves are, the poisoners, the traitors and who we’ll likely be fighting.
I think you're addressing a different issue than the original post.
My position, which I have posted here repeatedly is that the US should support Ukraine, but that we should not send our uniformed personnel to die until the European NATO allies have done so at scale.
This thread, though, is about testosterone-fueled young American bros who fancy themselves warriors and are growing frustrated that America has deprived them of that "adventure".
I made what I thought was a helpful suggestions that they could scratch that itch in Ukraine. Volunteers only. Like Orwell in Spain.
Come on. This answer is a cop out. If your thesis is true, there would be WAY more young men volunteering to right. 10-20% is your napkin math? Yeah, fucking right. Young dudes love pretending to be tough on social media but 99% of them are fucking pussies raised by overbearing mothers.
Very few people want to die for an intentionally and knowingly lost cause, especially if it has very little effect on what they consider important in their own lives.
To be clear, I don't think anyone is actually invading Haiti for the exact same reasons. But yes, I suppose one could be dumb enough to think they're going to enjoy the 'spoils' from invading Haiti in a way they wouldn't fighting in the other war, but ultimately, it still makes no sense that so few people are willing to go fight in the Ukraine if 'hundreds of thousands of young men' think they're going to invade Haiti. The entire premise is stupid, and not true.
To fight some fake psyop faggot war for some fuckers on on the other side of the world!!! NO! Stop you're faggotry and dumbass excuses to the issue at hand. Young men shouldn't need to merc up for some fucked up war of foreigners. They should fight to defend what's already theirs and is broken.
Why didn’t you join thousands of other blokes who went to Ukraine ?
Honking dits about how Simon Mann can’t even give you an answer as if you are a Trojan awaiting the Greeks who have yet to arrive. Get a grip you fucking crow.
I can give you one right now, go in the search browser “Ukrainian foreign legion”. Hundreds of blokes are out on the ground today.
Fly into krakow on an easyJet flight from London for under £100. You’ll be in the battle space rapid, if you have the SF experience you hint at.
I know you are a yank but that’s the flight path most of them took out Ukraine anyway (more proof you a waffler, there is many a yank in Ukraine)
All a blag writing like this is.
Have you fought mma ? Have you fought on the rough amateur boxing circuit ? Have you gone to Georgia to train wresting ? Have you joined an AC who are always punching on with the reds ?
Another fucking crow who has watched fight club, the only people who write this are the ones who can’t see the simple solutions in front of them.
Riding the tiger as it were is easy, it’s just blokes avoid what’s in front of them and ask on Substack for something more obscure.
The give away for me was the mention of lord miles and Haiti. Fuck me dead.
I would put a months wages on it 85% of those men never been punched in the face, never been outside for longer than a night.
They are all internet people, blaggers. You are one of them.
Please just grow up. Violence breeds violence and real valour is adding beauty to the world. When children are developing they love knocking things over. It takes years before they learn to create something. Look at the before and after pictures of the places that have been destroyed by war. Look at the peoples faces. I’m sure you can all find a way to create a life of challenge and achievement without destroying others.
War , particularly modern war is horrendous no one denies that, but it is and always will be part of human life and that being so , men who understand the martial aspect of existence are essential.
As I guessed , you have done the workshop thing.
The stuff about aboriginals never fighting wars over land is an indigenous white wash (no pun intended) of their history and is simply not true. Early settlers documented numerous examples, as did anthropologists in the mid-late 19c. Their culture had many unsavoury aspects , well documented of sexual abuse(still endemic in their culture),infanticide, even cannibalism. Most likely you consider all this as fiction as only white men do bad stuff and they lie about the unsavoury aspects of aboriginal life.
They also claim to have fought “wars” against white men as well(though a dozen or people fighting isolated skirmishes hardly constitutes a war)
Try going for a stroll through Alice Springs after dark.
War comes from trauma. Most of human history has no war and especially not in the death profit industry that is now the biggest cause of climate catastrophe. You obviously know nothing about traditional aboriginal culture or philosophy or lore. It’s very sophisticated. I suggest you not only look at Tyson Yunkaporta but also Mary Graham. The Australian Aboriginal people managed to make space for the climate refugees after the end of the last iceage. Ceremonies are still performed for the land under the sea 12,000 years after it was inundated. Like many indigenous people the Australians were horrified at the cruelty of the British, not only to the locals but to other British people. British culture was very violent. A 19 century book called ‘Wife torture’ showed how hideous it was to be married. We can say war is always with us and continue the violence or try something else. Glasgow treated violence as a communical disease and were successful in helping prevent it spreading. We can learn and change.
Wars are fought over land, resources, money, power and numerous other things , trauma has nothing to do with it by comparison. You have invested what ever meagre mental resources you have on western middle class psychological bullshit and listening to similarly fake aboriginal bullshit.
The world isn’t an art workshop unfortunately, and while there isn’t a western country worth fighting for , war is a fact of life. I have never been in a war , never wanted to , marched against the Vietnam war, and had a low opinion of military men.
Late in my professional life I worked with a lot of ex military men and without exception was impressed with their disciplined approach to work and life, their professionalism, ability to concentrate on and execute a task and their commonsense. Outside of these men, the fore mentioned qualities were not so common.
When your comfortable existence and is threatened, it is only these sort of men, you are so contemptuous of, that can protect it, your much vaunted “emotional maturity” won’t be worth a cracker. Get a perspective read a history book on WW2 as lived by ordinary people in Europe.
You make a lot of assumptions about me. I grew up around people who fought in the Second World War. My parents were children in the UK during it. My grandfather died of exposure to gas after the First World War. I knew partners of Vietnam vets. People who fought in the Angolan independence war and the Falkland war. People who survived Bosnia. Someone who ran yoga classes for veterans of all wars to help with their PTSD. We must outgrow war. Judith Herman in her book Trauma and Recovery mentions the interlinking of childhood trauma, war trauma and sexual abuse trauma. Tyson Yunkaporta in his book Sand Talk explained how indigenous Australians never fought about land. Their culture had many mechanisms to stop them. When they did fight the Victor had to receive the same injuries he’d inflicted on his opponent. A veteran from the First World War who witnessed this said he wished the same thing had been in place in Europe.
Crap. Children build and create all the time. Palour is in doing what is noble even if it results in your personal end. Do what is right for others... no matter what
Developmentally children knock things down before developing creative skills. I saw this with my own kids. Growing up takes effort and patience. A huge part of this is developing an emotional understanding of themselves and others. That leads to cooperation which is a foundation for a healthy society. Alternatively getting older without having the emotional maturity results in people flinging their undigested emotions onto others and expecting to be catered to. This is a recipe for frustration, violence and destruction.
Excellent article, it resonates with many of my own experiences in the modern Army.
My only caveat — some of my friends have found what they're looking for in Azov or other elite Ukrainian units. One only has to look at the vast amount of trench assault footage to see that glory in combat is still alive.
I can't help but comment. You write this article, and you fail to mention the opportunity of Ukraine. And then you comment that you don't want to go because the war might be over too soon? Do you think one dude from the US is going to make a political difference to that war? No. Do you want adventure and the opportunity to prove your mettle? Then go! I'm 49 and was in the Canadian military - I wouldn't have gone when I was younger. That doesn't make me a pussy. I signed up to fight for my country. Period. I can tell you I wouldn't have written an article pissing and moaning about not fighting in a war and finding adventure while a full on war is happening in Europe that involves the Russians. You've got some balls.
There are real battles to fight and adventures EVERYWHERE... there are causes to suffer and sacrifice yourself for and to prove your mettle as man... and yet you lack the vision to see. Your complaints are nothing new, and I hope your eyes are opened before it is too late.
Balls. 💩 Go light a candle and STFU. I am of course Catholic. Good thing for “Christendom” some MEN were willing to risk mortal sin by killing in war. Until 1095 that is…
There’s a reason Islam makes “Shirk” a mortal sin.
That you don't understand why that's a shit thing is such an incredible stain upon your person you cannot honestly consider yourself an educated man. Eat a bullet
You think its rough now? I joined in the 80s and Australia was determined to punish its military for Vietnam. Eventually I served as an unpaid volunteer in Burma.
Interesting piece. unlike some others, I don't see you advocating for war and bloodshed or whatever. you're merely describing the human condition as it exists in young men, and has existed since sapiens came into being, and will always exist.
I'm 52 and I get it.
I'm getting some notes together to write a piece about my uncle who ran away from postwar occupied Europe and joined the French Foreign Legion to start his life, which led to many more adventures.
Stunning work. Brings me great relief to see my own views so well articulated and laid out in this piece.
To know there are others who have come to this same conclusion about our world is a breath of fresh air and while we do toil in it for now, the call for freedom and adventure is alive and well in the souls of men who want to have it.
Credit you sir, you have earned a subscriber and a restack.
This is a larp. “We need adventure!” Refuses to go work in the oil patch. You will meet rough men there believe me. You could join the marine corps, there are rough but more civilized men there. Army infantry or any other MOS, can get you a deployment. Navy, they sail 6 months out of the year all over the world. But you wanna be a roving maruader? Shut the hell up dude. The cartel will kill you, real men understand that chaos is not preferable because then you see real carnage and that isn’t something anyone wants to see. You are an internet larper pretending to be a man. I can tell you there are not alot of uni grads in the oil patch. If you really want adventure there is contract work in foreign countries where they pay very good money. But you aren’t a man, you can’t deal with real danger. So you’re gonna start robbing grandmas and women. May you receive your full wage if you travel that path. If it is so, the lawman will return and there is no civility for the uncivil.
… so you see we are past the Bourbon “Apres Moi…” this is the Deluge.
He is speaking from the Deluge. He’s absolutely a soldier if one cannot read.
He and the other rising young mean America lives , which makes sacrifice worthwhile- at last.
Thank you for actually reading and comprehending it, great way of putting it though
This is the deluge
That our 🇺🇸 men have fight is our survival, which justifies sacrifice.
Just fight or we perish, this the eternal fate of humanity. YES I DID, a bit.
If things get rocking before I’m a total liability I’ll jump back in , just to keep faith.
Also see victory, which is my countrymen rising at last as men, for victory is survival.
So, thanks 🫡
The Jews have switched tactics and now need to refresh their white soldiers because they are preparing to send them into a meat grinder called WW3, which should finish off all of these retards who decided they just want to fight somewhere. Wait until you realize you are surrounded by automated units and not a human being for a hundred miles about to be vaporized by direct energy weapons steered by AI units. Turns out that you snooze, you lose.
I think we read the same shit. 😂
I think he’s actually in, did you read the article?
It’s coming anyway, and good. Fighting is survival.
The “Cartel” BTW LOL are vendors getting the heave ho, so by all means let’s let Americans do their own work.
They want to be men is all, this is ancient and timeless and eternal.
The freakish aberrations of the last century are dying and as it was all lies, let it die and let Men be Men, regardless of the “laws” which are 110% Longhouse. Gynarchy.
It’s over. No one would defend it, no man anyway.
Agree, we need oil.
Unless you are a psychopath I don’t think any normal man wants to witness the kind of brutality that an anarchy can produce. Cartels don’t have mercy and they don’t discriminate. You morons think that a recession of the US Gov means more freedom but you don’t recognize that mexican cartels have the armaments, the logistics, and the will to dominate in lawless environments. You will not be a bandido, you will just be a poor bastard working like all the other poor bastards in mexico.
I’m not in Mexico.
I don’t know what you mean by recession of the US government … and frankly since you’re so pleasant I DGAF.
I absolutely know what anarchy looks like in several places worldwide.
The current US government is restoring order along the border and seeing off the cartels… the exact opposite of the previous administration and a reversal of American policy of decades of at least accepting chaos in Mexico in exchange for it being absorbed into the USA economically and eventually politically.
Since you’re dense; The Mexican Cartels are Vendors - OUR VENDORS. That’s why I said they are vendors. We’ve been destabilizing Mexico with a variety of means for 40 years, the Drugs like the destruction of their agricultural economy and the subsequent migration north while building up a modern economy in all respects in Mexico- to our cost in Industry and the ravages of drugs. In terms of “recession” yes these policies are “receding” and we’re ending our vendor relationship. Since you mention “psychopath” the policy now being reversed by Trump pretty much fits psychopathic.
Now if that was order let us have anarchy.
As far as the rising of the young and the desire of young soldiers for action… this is natural and healthy. What isn’t healthy is gerontocracy and miserable old men and women turning America into a nightmare version of Asian slavery without any of Asia’s mitigating values like family. The young deserve their chance, they don’t have to go abroad to fight (as we all secretly sense) and I say this as a 58 year old combat veteran- I don’t care if we have to burn it all down for them to live, including if they have to burn or slay me.
Never mind the contempt I feel for Boomer Pensioners who sold us all out, or if Social Security goes bust, and if any group of Americans can’t defend themselves from lowlifes with yes a respectable amount of small arms - then perish.
Or form your own “cartel.”
BTW it isn’t the elderly I scorn here, it’s the selfishness. Almost beyond belief, moral senility.
… so you see we are past the Bourbon “Apres Moi…” this is the Deluge.
He is speaking from the Deluge. He’s absolutely a soldier if one cannot read.
He and the other rising young mean America lives , which makes sacrifice worthwhile- at last.
What you seem to be missing is that men like him, and men like me aren’t LARPers. We have the opinions we have and make the proclamations we profess because we HAVE seen what occurs when a few more socio-political milestones are reached in the wrong direction. We’ve seen children perished from wars of men be devoured by feral dogs. We’ve seen cities leveled. We’ve seen tiny arms and legs horrifically protruding from piles of rubble.
You believe what? That we’re all just blood thirsty and maladjusted because we’re what? Bored? Dumb? Unaccomplished? Racist? Bigoted? 🤣🤣🤣
Here’s the thing- you are telling yourself this because your existence and indeed any semblance of security you feel, hinges upon it being true. You believe this because it’s the only thing you can believe. If you’re wrong, you end up being someone’s slave or someone’s lunch, or simply a memory- so you’re blindly invested in being right.
Conversely, people like me desperately want to be wrong about where we think this is all headed. We think this because we have seen where it goes if our gut feelings are correct.
In the end all this blathering and sniveling verbal pugilism means jack shit. You are either prepared or unprepared; trained or untrained. From my 30 years of observation, people like you are dependent upon a bureaucracy because you are unprepared and untrained. Your comments cement your status as such.
Good luck.
Don't know who you are but I will cover your six, keep firing reality at these idiots. That "bloodlust" is a sodomite obsession and has nothing to do with soldiers and patriotism.
I just call it like I see it. The reality is that the people calling for the most violence are the people that would fall the fastest in a societal collapse scenario. Look how quickly these smarmy, cowardly sacks turned on one another and encouraged family members to narc on one another for not “following regulations” during the “pandemic”. I could give more examples.
I don’t blame them for being vociferous and hostile. The gravy train is over, and it’s gonna sting a little bit. But they’re not threatening anymore because their cultural influence, which was where they derived most of their power is waning fast. This is just entertainment now as what they mock seems like it’s less ludicrous and has more potential to manifest. Watching their fear express itself in ridicule of that which they are most afraid is borderline irresistible. I can’t help but indulge once in a while.
You are, like so many others, one who should listen more than speak. You got two ears and one mouth for a reason. Violence is part of human nature and the cowards who hide feom it are oft the victims of its resurgence from repressive societies. Good luck
Which war did you fight in, Fedora Hat?
Wrong answer New York Times subscriber. I’ll eat a bullet before that happens. Mine or someone else’s. There’s a reason why savages don’t become slaves you soft little waffle.
Don't know who you are but looks like you and I are the only actual soldiers on this LARP thread at present.
You sound jealous that younger men are ready to be more violent than you were ever able to be. My Germanic ancestors were absolutely violent when the time called for it and they never hesitated. This is where it is true in human nature. They conquered the world. Odin's frenzy is abundant in Germanic men.
Sounded so gay and pretentious. I could tell at once you’ve never been punched in the face.
Of course not. I'm a woman. Why would i be punched in the face?
Also you obviously have no education in the meaning of anarchy. Chaos and anarchy are antithetical
Dur da dur da dur. 🖕
Exactly
You've never been punched in the face and knocked down.
He is not actually in the military. He has an army in Minecraft. It's in the text. Color me unimpressed.
"In the big 2025 (as I hear the tik tok crowd say), this path is not rewarding either. Generally, you follow this path. You join and go through intense training, some (like myself in my Minecraft server) choose to go through more rigorous and difficult training. You then find yourself in the infantry going to field ops to either shoot on golf course maneuver ranges or fire blanks at each other. Your biggest concerns? Range safety, expenditure reports, and making sure your boss whose chasing 20 years looks good so he gets good reports and makes the next rank. Are you concerned with the guys under you being lethal and ready to fight in a war? Well, your bosses aren’t; and boot blouses and mustaches are more likely to get them yelled at by their bosses so that’s what you’ll focus on."
DEMORALIZATION FAIL
It’s not working anymore
BTW who is paying you scumbags to drag other people down with USAID gone?
Something is working, if you believe this 25-year-old kid with a flair for dramatic writing is an experienced infantryman.
You are a joke
Which war did you fight in, again? Sounds like all of them.
As IQ has dropped two full deviations, the remnant half-wits now think that war is all that is left for them - and they've never even been soldiers. Right around the 250 year mark, just in time to end up in the mass grave.
These are the typical tail end of a declining society.
In fact, the noble virtues are all that ever distinguished us from sh*tty little third world countries that have been fighting for centuries without surcease. But the Minecraft contingent know how to save us.
These guys didn't have dads, so they've turned to nonsense internet LARP and action movies to try to figure out what masculinity is- and it's turning them into emotionally weak narcissistic monsters, not strong men like they think they are- because they wouldn't even know one if they met one. Every single person that writes crap like this on the internet doesn't know how to lift heavy things, fix a car, build a house, or lead a group with vision, integrity, strength, and kindness. They wouldn't be so frustrated and angry with life if they had useful skills people admired, that led to fulfilling jobs and relationships.
Indeed. It's a pity that something like Boy Scouts is in decline, because we need it more than ever to teach men useful skills and leadership. People need to kick their boys off of Halo and make them shit in the woods.
Exactly- the solution is for men to mentor boys before they grow up to be like this. Being good dads, scoutmasters, community and religious leaders, etc. They need someone to give a shit about them, and give them real skills that will build self esteem and personal power. I was a Boy Scout myself, and your comment and this guys post has inspired me to become a scoutmaster in my community. I remember hearing about the guy who runs the "Art of Manliness" blog, Brett McKay teaches powerlifting classes to the boys at his church.
That's awesome. My husband is a cubmaster and I think it's a service to the world. We have destroyed a lot of culture and not replaced it with a positive message to boys on how to be men. Scouts was designed to be that, and it is still a great program. Good luck!
I agree. I’m a QC specialist for a real- estate developer and the young man that I’m working with, who is mid 20s and a superintendent on a massive project was an Eagle Scout. He’s polite, measured, well-adjusted, kind and skilled. It would be difficult for me to believe that organization had nothing to do with shaping him that way.
This is blind to reality
Nailed it.
Not at all, pink cowboy
If you think a nation of young men that didn’t have fathers and didn’t grow up learning good habits from balanced men isn’t a problem, I invite you to study human history. Any of it.
Making fun of people that might be dangerous if the country takes a worse economic downturn, or are driven out of work by technology- AI, self-driving technology, low level tech support jobs etc, isn’t going to do much other than make you feel superior until your next insult.
Right now in the US, there are more young men that didn’t have fathers that have somewhat bleak prospects for leading a fulfilling life than not.
So make fun of them because they act out on the internet. That seems like something compassionate and helpful to do. Also, one more thing to consider; if you’re on the left side of the political aisle, you should hope for less disaffected young men in your polity. The disaffected ones predominantly vote right. The ones that are doing well predominantly do not.
I'm not making fun of them, but I am holding them responsible if they are awful people, even if I do understand how that came to be. If you look at my comment and followup comments, it's something I care deeply about, and am doing everything I can to mentor and get involved in boys like this' lives, before they grow up and become like the person that wrote this post, someone that admits that they want to be a soldier because murder sounds fun. The reason I used the tough, ridiculing tone I did with this guy is because it's on his same wavelength, I think it's the only way a message could connect with him. If someone is nice and courteous to him, people like this would only see that as weakness, and dismiss them.
one harsh comment, and you were called out because what you wrote wasn't "compassionate" (parent comment's words).
If they can't stand a harsh comment what do they think being shot against at war is like?
And those proper parent figures of yore, do they think they'd opt for "compassionate" when they encoutered nonsense?
You got me! Good job! Relish in your victory. And your pedantry.
Oh yeah. My mistake. This seems like simply holding them accountable and 100% in good faith:
“These guys didn't have dads, so they've turned to nonsense internet LARP and action movies to try to figure out what masculinity is…”
Your assumption without knowing that to be true, and then pejoratively throwing it out there says more about you than him. It was meant to ridicule and insult and you goddamned well know it. I love it when people do this. It means I can easily dismiss and ignore you.
Ignore and dismiss anyone you want. What I said was mean. However, I can see from your comments that you care about this issue also, and if anyone is going to reach these guys it's going to be someone more like Gunnery Sergeant Hartman than anyone else, that tells it to them straight.
Ironically, difficult, fatherless childhoods are more often than not the catalyst necessary to produce men with enough anger that they can feign it to such perfection that it becomes a tool for training other men to be able to end strangers’ lives without ruining their own.
Go figure.
There are numerous books published since the end of the Vietnam War until now that outline this dynamic in great detail- with gobs of psych research undergirding the assertions that the authors and social scientists make in them.
Unless you’re willing to argue with all of that research and then do enough of your own to make a viable counter hypothesis (of which there exists very little at this time), then you are essentially saying simultaneously that fatherless men are a problem, yet also a solution.
Seems like you’re woefully ignorant when it comes to masculinity and the male psyche. Perhaps you should either read more, or relegate your arguments to the arena of fitness, on which you are undoubtedly more knowledgeable.
> “These guys didn't have dads, so they've turned to nonsense internet LARP and action movies to try to figure out what masculinity is…”
What about that is not accurate?
(oh, and lest you trip on this, "didn't have dads" doesn't imply they were abandoned. Just that they didn't have role models in their Gen X/Millenial fathers, whether divorced or not).
It’s not accurate first of all because it’s just an insult. There’s no way she could know what this guy’s relationship was with his father. So it’s not accurate because it’s probably not accurate.
Secondly, human beings respond differently to stress, trauma, abandonment, etc. The assertion being made here is fatherlessness = LARPing which = delusional. A simple and thoughtless calculation meant to entertain the writer of the comment and nothing more.
And oh, by the way, unless he’s fucking dead, a father not being in his kid’s life through no fault of the child, has abandoned that child. As things stand domestically, there’s a hell of a lot more deadbeat dads than dead dads.
Wigga all of us who say this are either Infantry, Marines, or SOF. There is no fighting happening right now. Our friends in the Navy got to blow up a fuckton of Houthis because Hegseth (begrudgingly) said so after Europe pretty promised to pay us back for the favor. We run lanes against noone, and go home to jerk off. We don't even do wargames anymore! My detachment dropped our annual gamepod because our newly assigned Col "didn't see the training value" in it! Literally bought a gas blowback replica M4 for this shit just to have it ripped away...
No SOF has time to be reading substack dude
Truthnuke, counterpoint, no deployments = regular ass schedule once you finish pipeline, at least according to the TACP I know. You do realize that STOs are, at the end of the day, officers, who end up doing a lot of the same stuff in peacetime, right?
BingO.
Lol how TF you know that?
This guy is a pogue retard AT BEST. The statements he makes betrays that fact about himself. If this asshat had ever served in ANY combat unit, or any combat support unit EVER, he’d know that there is a TON of time spent waiting. Also, if you’re not deployed or on a field op, have no wife or family, the military affords single men lots of time to read, play video games, work out, etc. Responding to dipshit beta jerkoffs like this weenie making stupid assertions founded in zero evidence or experience that utter phrases like “trans genocide” and “white complicity” is among the worst way to spend one’s time.
Trust me, I responded to him twice.😂
The point is the young men - no longer “males” of 2-3 generations are suddenly men again as the liberal oppression collapses and they are understandably coming to take what’s theirs- not that it was going to be given.
I prefer cocky green kid to “you will own nothing and be happy, eat the paste, live in pods.”
For they banished nature but HE has returned.
I’ve made this point repeatedly over time.
Moreover if any people’s young men aren’t seeking danger and conflict that people are going extinct- exactly as was happening, exactly as was
It is what it is, it’s the story of man eternally. *
I think this is to be preferred to lay down and die passively eating bug paste in pods whacking to porn, the other prior regimes mandate.
*also eternal “you young punk you ain’t done nothing “ … 🤣 well not yet. That’s actually his complaint, Old timer. 🤣
Yes, we were young and full of 💩 too, or at least I was…
Of course he’s chafing at the bit. Of course he hates the bureaucracy (I still do) of course the paper pushers and safety geeks get on his nerves.
They certainly got on mine. Still do.
Of course he’s chafing to fucking prove himself and won’t learn patience until the enemy and strife teach him.
Be happy after all the sludge physical and moral that anyone shows up. The alternative is extinction, the prior regime has made that clear.
Pick your poison ; smart ass but shows up or …. Lay down and die, and we sacrificed for nothing.
Choose your champion here; it’s Karen and 💉 OR MushMouth the smart ass kid (as if we weren’t!! ). Well, I was.
Perhaps you were born Baby Yoda…?
I hear you. Learn to communicate more concisely young man. Also there is a whole spectrum between adventurous risk taker and beta boot licker. That’s where most reside.
What John Freeman said. There are a lot of options for dangerous jobs out there. Complaining on the internet because your parents didn't set you up for one is... bizarre.
Danger is not the topic. Full expression of human nature and potential is. The repression of human nature, such that every male is made to be feminized, is a serious deprivation of potential. Taxi driving is more dangerous than being a cop, but isn't a fulfilling enterprise for a warrior.
Okay, but if you recognize the problem in yourself, there's not much preventing you from addressing it.
Become a cop.
Become a hired gun.
Work the oil fields -- they still exist.
Become a bush pilot in Alaska. They're quite in demand.
Work a deep-sea fishing ship.
No parent in their right mind is going to purposely set their kid up for a dangerous life, but if that's what you need to get your blood pumping well, it's a free world. Use the internet to take charge of your life instead of just complaining about it.
Of course I can already see the next post about how men have to do all the dirty work and are disposable to society, etc.
Restraining myself from just calling you a retard is tough, but I'm trying.
Every single time someone responds to a social question with a "why don't you go and do..." they are copping out of the question. It's a social question not a "what am I personally doing right now question"
My blood pumps just fine I'm my own life
Complaining about things and expecting other people to fix them is exactly the childish, effeminate culture we decry on the far left. Stop waiting for "society" and "government" to fix all problems. Go out there and fix them yourself.
Recruit for the army. Run a Venture Scout troop. Teach teens to lift weights. Join Richard Reeves's think tank.
Being a keyboard warrior who only has complaints and no real solutions is not manly.
You realize the demoralization has stopped working, right?
> Danger is not the topic. Full expression of human nature and potential is.
And you think that happens in war?
Real men who actually fought in WWI, WWII, or even Vietnam thought the exact opposite. That is was senseless carnage, and not "the full expression" of their nature.
Go start a family. Don't like modern American girls? Find court, and marry one in a traditional society. Go start a business in some African or Asian country. Not enough danger and excitement? Go help fight the cartels in Latin America. Go in Antarctica for scientific expeditions. Drive a truck in Alaska. Join a fishing crew. Explore the Amazon and get friendly with the tribes. Become a street cop.
Those that ask for deployments of war, have a movie/game/fairy-tale idea of them.
You are missing the point
go on, I'm listening.
Western civilization was built by our forefathers. Our recent grandfathers and fathers are by and large giving up everything to women and foreigners. This has created a massive transfer of wealth, opportunity, and everything else our civilization once offered to young men.
If you think this is ok, then you are blind. We will not stand for this. Its that simple. We will not be dispossessed. Trying to blame us, trying to gaslight us, trying to moralize liberalism, trying to ignore our complaints, all that does is create more of us.
The West needs the young men of the West. Its that fucking simple. We will not slave for banks and foreigners. We will not be policed by women and cucks. We would rather join our forefathers in Heaven and Valhalla after dying in some sordid swamp fighting savages.
Get that through your head. We want what our fathers gave away.
Y'know the story of the Prince who has his kingdom usurped by his uncles, so he goes on a long journey to find himself then returns to get revenge? Well, imagine that but on a societal scale.
That's why when you try to blame individual men for our response to this, it falls flat. Our entire racial youth have been disinherited. The boys will rebel first. Then the girls will follow. The hippies of the 60-70’s rebelled against tradition. The kids do today rebel against the hippies. Its simple, really.
Well that's great! Sounds like you really are taking charge of your own happiness. What's the plan, aside from revenge and destruction?
So you missed it again. You are not being serious. We are going to build anew. We are already organizing. There are good older men who helped pave the way. Thankfully, we have thousands of years of examples to pull inspiration from.
What I said. Gotta love Boomers, you’re telling him an Infantryman what “dangerous jobs” he should seek.
Poisonous.
Now depart this plane, you have poisoned enough.
It's a good day when I get called a Boomer and Gen Z in the same day.
Is this your plane? If so, you get to decide who stays on or gets off. But otherwise, you can sit down yourself.
I meant this plane of existence. We’ve been poisoned enough.
You see Treason - You’ve actually done your worst and you’re down to ankle biting. Really you should have let us run on ahead, now we’ll have to stomp you.
I know you think you sound grand, but mostly you sound like someone with a sandwich board standing on the corner of Times Square. You don't know a damn thing about me and we are here to discuss the article. Ad hominems are the refuge of the uninformed.
Can you cite the passages that inspired your comment?
I tried but it was the whole thing. He says that in the past he could have gone to work in oil fields for some danger. As if we don't drill oil any more.
Then he creates an entirely theoretical career arc through the military and finds it unfulfilling. As if there's no danger involved in training African militants. Or anyway, not enough. Or not the right kind. It has to be right sort of military experience. The kind in movies, I would guess. Or video games.
I agree it was hard to follow and a little fast and loose but some of it did resonate with me. I don’t share his perspective, but I understand the sentiment. However, there were two main grievances, danger and adventure. Not just danger.
I understand. There's a reason Alaska is so skewed male. And there's a reason people (mostly men) take up base jumping and the like. I appreciate that there is a real need for regular injections of adrenaline into many lives.
But I did not get the feeling that the OP was engaging with this problem in a good-faith way. He simply discards all his options as "not dangerous enough." There is no point at which he advances a narrative where he's tried any of it. (His military experience appears to be in a Minecraft sim.)
I was recently on a boat full of people who, conversely, had taken steps to inject adventure into their lives. They were not rich.
The boat's pilot was a woman who left a life of housecleaning because she decided it was time to start living for herself.
Her son was teaching a group to be scuba instructors. The would-be instructors were hoping to leave their deadening jobs for one that enables greater adjacency to adventure. (Sure, you spend most of your time keeping tourists alive, but after hours you and your friends can go visit the cool, dangerous wrecks and break all the rules.)
This article, rather, reminds me of being a kid complaining I'm bored on a summer's day and then discarding every single idea my mother proposes. My goal wasn't to be entertained, it was to be a pain in the butt.
While the need for danger and adventure may be a powerful male experience, the difference between "man" and "boy" is in who takes charge of their life vs who lashes out and blames others.
Yeah, if anything, I come away from reading that with the sentiment that the author needs to elaborate and extrapolate. That’s almost a book-worthy topic based on breadth alone, but the ideas are a bit spastic and not explained well enough.
Like I said, because I understand the gist of what he’s trying to get across , because I’ve had similar lines of contemplation, I can glean context that most people that read this will be unable to.
Do you want to understand, or do you want to willingly ignore things?
Could not have expressed it better.
Our real problem is too few men fierce about protecting our civilization no matter what and too many of these 'net heroes running around in plastic replica viking helmets.
I've been shot at and I don't want to do it again and I don't want havoc ... it leads to nothing but worse havoc. This guy has watched too many capeshit and war movies and thinks real life is a video game. No heterosexual male wants to kill foreigners. It's horrible stuff and if you don't think so ask yourself why 80% of combat troops deliberately miss in battle and if they hit anything, they become alcoholics who blow their brains out a few years later. That won't happen if you are defending your own nation but modern males are cuck pussies who do critique of their own nations and celebrate the "other."
Ten-to-one odds that this guy has never been punched in the face and knocked down.
Who cares about foreign nations when our own is collapsing inside into anarchy? That's too close to home and too real so this guy has to masturbate imagining himself on foreign soil killing random males.
By the way, U.S. War College research going back to the 1800's shows that the desire to kill strangers is yoked at the hip to latent homosexuality. They're almost one and the same thing. Queers have friendly fire incidents at 7-to-1 ratio to real soldiers. They never fail to squeeze the trigger before identifying, that's why they are a huge liability and that's why the Army never wanted them as recruits.
Ad hominem is exactly the province of the Uniformed.
These dudes are larpers. I haven’t met any dude who participated in combat that glorified it or was happy they were in that situation. The only people I meet who want to tell everyone about their deployment didn’t experience combat.
Combat vet here. I do not agree. Some revel in the shit. I don't tell people about my experiences so much, but only fags are averse to combat when combat is the only solution left. Shit is so fucked these days it's beyond cowardice to not do what is right and necessary.
Fighting foreigners ten thousand miles away is the right thing to do?
You missed the point of the piece: the author is detailing human nature in a f*cked up society. The BLM/Antifa riots were this generation’s boot camp. Carmelo Anthony was ripe for recruitment.
This is a very well put together article. I'm not even that young, but I too feel I've been deprived of fundamental experiences and opportunities by the bureaucratic state. I don't want it any more. I'd gladly take up arms on behalf of a greater power if there's a chance that at the end of it I could actually achieve fundamental resources. Even the networking of such of an adventure would be worth it. Lord Miles simply teasing the idea and shitposting has raked in tremendous interest.
Doesn't hurt that I've been on the 'monarchy is the way' arc for the last year. Nothing would make me happier than assisting to set up a modern western neo-monarchy on behalf of King Miles.
I appreciate it! Was inspired from your article.
I think its very telling that were at the point of someone like Lord Miles being the best option… I think hes hilarious but a bit insane to think of him as a ruler
It's absolutely bonkers. Interesting times.
Waiting. Trump is interlude, he has done the vital part of young cadres. He is also setting us up for success. He will fail on Law - that’s the failure point all along.
He may know this, his real problem is not cowardice but an aversion to bloodshed.
These aren’t the same thing.
I think that Vance might be able to get things rolling, but it'll be a few years.
I would not plan on any time frame. The Color Revolution machinery was set in motion here in 2019 to get Trump and is still running. Tectonic plates were already moving and the Chaos Rentier crowd decided to “work from home” then failed ultimately. Ever the child psychopath’s they start fires, they don’t build. 2028 is not a planning date, there are none. Even an Event calendar or IF-THEN doesn’t work.
By my estimate Vance takes command in 2027
I’m glad your Crystal Ball 🔮 is so reliable.
What pray does he Command?
We'll see if I'm right in a few years xD
If you want more on my schizo predictions look up my "reformation" article on my substack. We'll see how close I am in my analyses in a few years, and you can make fun of me then.
Help me out here. Bureaucracy hasn’t eliminated war. Is your complain that it’s eliminated risk? I agree that the whole “safety first” culture has gone way too far. But adults are free to pursue adrenaline recreationally.
Recreation doesn’t provide meaning
You focus on the military for obvious reasons. But in all things, the over 50 year olds have denied the young dudes opportunities that ARE for the young bucks in a healthy society.
Look to Hollywood. Name 10 recognizable straight male actors under 35. I bet you can't, yet they still cast Robert De Niro as the street tough guy, Tom Cruise as the super spy sprinting across the screen, and George Clooney as the leading man hunk. These men are all at least 60 years old. It's ludicrous, almost profane to watch for a young man seething with this virility you write about.
Do you know how old Steven Speilberg was when he directed Jaws? 26. That's right, he was 26 when given his big shot. Did he pass on the torch, give talented young guys similar opportunities? Nope, he (now 78) gatekeeps the film industry and elevated his coffee girl of similar age--Kathleen Kennedy, an avowed misandrist. In her Indiana Jones movie, Indy is a miserable divorced loser who pleads for his superior niece to leave him to die in the literal past (time travel is involved). She knocks him out with a punch and saves him. We men under 40 all know this story was crafted carefully, meticulously, by the old to break the soul of the young. Not one line of the script was a mistake.
Every aspect of American civilization has become like this; the youngblood reduced to tenement wage slaves who support the increasingly deranged lifestyles and ambitions of the geriatrics. Making their lattes. Maintaining their estates. Stocking their food. Protecting them from violence. Increasing their profits. In the natural world, we would've easily overpowered and physically dethroned these frail, cowardly coots long ago. More typically they'd have graciously stepped aside to honorable supporting roles where they could do a lot of good and in exchange live in dignity and security.
All this to say, I think the pressure building with the younger dudes is less about there being no new continents to settle. I think with every day we in America see clearly who our oppressors are--the silver haired with all the gold. I don't know what's going to happen, but it ain't going to stay like this much longer.
Great insight, I think you’re spot on. With both my argument (and my life) took the idea of adventure to the logical extreme of being martial.
There are very few things a man in his 20’s can do that aren’t being a wageslave and this is a cry that even the supposed exit button of the infantry is just another path to microsoft teams.
Caesar wept when saw all Alexander had done by his age.
I relate to your drive to adventure, it's what motivated me to try out commercial fishing in Alaska and the PNW, climb mountains, n all kinds of shit. Even write--although the publishing world doesn't make it easy. That fire is potent stuff and is supposed to propel functioning civilizations upward. But we live in a time when the soft, greedy, mentally deranged oldies fear the fire--try to extinguish it with everything they got. Weaponize their pets (certain trained college chicks, rainbow people, illegal immigrants) to attack us.
Their effort is futile. You can spend literally trillions like they have to dim the fire for a time, but it never goes out.
It’s falling apart now of old age and its own horrific dysfunctions.
They’ll be no shortage of work for the Infantry or The Worker*. Both have been artificially suppressed for decades by our predatory ruling system and it’s over.
It is in the transition your cohort will rise.
Although Trump has done the vital thing of creating young cadres, several thousand now, full of dynamic leadership, the notion that the collapse of the old 1945 system will not create shockwaves and wars is too far a reach.
As far as them clipping your wings and your nuts - it’s over. They discovered too late they needed men and to offer something beyond wageslave or email cubicleStan to go home to the pods, bug paste and porn.
Something very different happened. A movement arose against this unnatural monstrosity and then a man rose to lead the movement.
We can call it “MAGA” but it’s really just being MEN again. Instead of “males” and “rational economic units” .
So rise and strike , all in your way.
PS … don’t write off Space at all. Think of our future, that’s it.
To respond to your territorial ambitions; you can go in this Hemisphere South or with far greater danger North, we cannot advance further in Asia because of Nukes.
*The Worker I refer to Ernst Junger.
Excellent insight Mr. Comer. What has been done and is still being done is one of the worst crimes against mankind in history, murder would be swifter and kinder.
Burn it all, and yea I will go again.
I reckon complementary forces of destruction and creation of some kind will happen. But it ain't going to stay like this--it never does. The men under 40ish or so seem to be the axis upon which what to come shall spin... or maybe I'm full of shit, HA!
I joined the Australian army a few years post-Vietnam at the age of 17. We had just got out of that war, but I assumed another would come along shortly. I wanted to go places and fight, and kill foreigners, and get paid to do it. What a bargain! I wanted to drink beer with other young men and do things that would mean I had a place of respect as a man among those men.
As it turned out, we had ten years of peace. I trained and trained but I never got to go to war. And after only ten years my body was starting to give way under the strain, so I gave it away. My knees and lower back still remind me of my service every day.
My point is, you are correct. I'm in my 60s now, but given the choice, I would do it all over again. I understand young men who want it now. Men who are infatuated with sex have simply never experienced belt-federal weapons.
I'm 55 and I have been saying this for years... what we are doing to our kids will have serious repercussions. The world we leave them, kids starting their life with debt out of school, housing unaffordable, the ridiculous social norms, nature messed up and don't get me started on the whole electronic surveilance...
I'm truly sorry!!
Yup. It'll flip though. The cowards of today will breed the warriors of tomorrow because the environment will shape them by necessity. Most men are ubereffeminate today. Just stay steadfast and ready to teach those to come. They'll need it
This reads like someone trying to justify their inability to find meaning.
There are more wars today than in the last 30 years and we have magic boxes will the accumulation of all human knowledge in our pockets. You are painting a fire on your walls and calling the fire department.
I am not going to say it is always easy to find an internal drive and certainly our magic connected boxes have made it harder. What remains true is that the issues you write about are made up, either maliciously to cause chaos or because you haven't a clue how the world works.
No, the fire rises.
He’s just being honest.
And they’re owed their chance to be men.
Liberalism and the Enlightenment die and Men rise again.
r/iam14andthisisdeep, you’re comment is nonsense and has added nothing of substance.
Wanna die in a war? Got to Ukraine or the Sahel
It’s not just about dying in a war dumbass, it’s about dying for a cause. Dying for Ukraine for what? So the woman can study the queer theory of kollyva? Dying in the Sahel for some warlord who no one will remember two days after his regime ends? We want a noble cause that is worthy of our blood.
A bot lol
Not everyone that disagrees with you is a bot larper
True, might just be fags or 85 IQ retards
Spoken like someone who has never been damaged by war. Wounded combat veterans see articles like this as performative propaganda for an ideal of masculinity that will end badly for those dumb enough to take it seriously.
But how would you ever know if you are fighting for an honerable cause, or just deluding yourself?
Didn't many of the young men of imperial Japan and Nazi Germany believe (at least on some level) that they were fighting for an honerable cause?
What a comfortable thought that the world will not require real men. Be glad you will due sooner than later, and real men will do what you cannot
So edgy, have you tried r/iam14andthisisdeep
Fag
Honestly better than not replying
Young men need the concept of a nation to be revived. Something to live, fight and die for. Not by aggressively attacking other countries but by building a glorious society. The nation can dignify even mundane work. But in Australia where I live politicians are too afraid to even mention the word.
Young men need to get moving and stop for nothing, and Gen Xers like me can be the breach element. We have nothing better to do , and even graying men owe it to the young to give them their shot.
An entire civilization was reorganized around ruining and exploiting their own children and seed and we Xers know and being given one last chance to throw it down.
All men owe it to everyone else to do everything in our power to change this bullshit we've found ourselves in
Why aren't they lining up to fight in Ukraine?? If Orwell could rush to Spain, surely all these warriors lusting for blood and bullets can find their way to the Dnipro.
I know people who have gone to Ukraine. Some seemed to enjoy it, another got killed by an FPV drone. This does seem an OK option but realistically its hard to really support either side and hard to trust you won’t be cannon fodder on the front line.
Realistically the conflict probably won’t last a whole lot longer OR you are going to be volunteering to get thrown into a hopeless fight (could be wrong).
Right. "I wanna go kill people, 'cuz it's fun. But I don't wanna die, bruh."
Poseurs.
Uh, are you the real thing JT? Ukraine is a scam.
Maybe people want to fight for their own?
Not strangers.
Fight for their own? But the author says "People join the military to kill people." You can kill people by joining the fight in Ukraine. Hell, if you have incredibly low moral standards, you could even join the Russian side and kill people!
Fight for their own? But the author classifies 80-90% of people as NPCs and normies who "till the fields and make graphs on excel". Is that who you want to die for? Or maybe you're willing to die for the 10% of men who reject "simplicity" and feel a greater calling? I don't see those 10% shifting much across borders, so here again, why not go fight in Ukraine?
The author says "realistically its hard to really support either side and hard to trust you won’t be cannon fodder on the front line". But wait, you joined the military to kill people. You also explicitly mention that infantry is the real deal. You're telling me a modern conflict between, say, the US and China wouldn't set you up as cannon fodder on the front line? Where are you supposed to kill people and fulfill your manly destiny if not on the front line?
I understand that you're searching for meaning. You joined the army and discovered that there isn't any fighting to do. You slowly discovered, just like the rest of us, that modern society doesn't infuse you with meaning, rather it is concerned with keeping you relatively docile and in a constant state of consumption.
Only you're experiencing society from the outside looking in - you're military, not a civilian, and your sense of belonging is very strong due to that unique experience. You easily fall into the trap of believing that a crushing majority of people have a meaningless life, a simple life, but that you're fit to fulfill a much greater purpose, if only someone would let you... Ignoring the fact that that someone is you (you could get up and join the fight in Ukraine, or elsewhere), you eagerly wait for the downfall of civilization where your killing services would be needed. You then construct an entire view of your self around that purpose, and around that event. It's always right around the corner, and to echo other comments under this article, that's when real men will get to be real men. In essence, your view of manhood is bound by the choices of a select few powerful men to sign papers that say "we are going at war with this people". If you don't come up with an alternative view for your manhood and how you can self-realize, and the big fight you're waiting for doesn't happen (or happens when you're 45 or something), you're in for a rough time.
The thread here is about young men wanting to go to war.
The Ukrainians are fighting the good fight.
This is problematic. However it’s the fight of Ukrainians, not Americans.
Now if you have gone and fought in Ukraine, I will respect facing danger.
If you’re trying to get our young soldiers out of the country to die for a DC money laundering operation, or to demoralize our young, I won’t respect it.
He’s American.
He should fight for our country, and he should fight on our soil (I’m quite willing to) and for his future. Not for this sick system that robs the youth of everything, including manhood.
I think perhaps we both know who the thieves are, the poisoners, the traitors and who we’ll likely be fighting.
Cheers, Slava America.
I think you're addressing a different issue than the original post.
My position, which I have posted here repeatedly is that the US should support Ukraine, but that we should not send our uniformed personnel to die until the European NATO allies have done so at scale.
This thread, though, is about testosterone-fueled young American bros who fancy themselves warriors and are growing frustrated that America has deprived them of that "adventure".
I made what I thought was a helpful suggestions that they could scratch that itch in Ukraine. Volunteers only. Like Orwell in Spain.
I would suggest those thirsting for war experience do a little reading about the trench warfare of WWI. Might change a few minds.
Or watch Saving Private Ryan.
Growing up with shooter video games and gun clubs, boosted by 'roid Brofluencers (Rogan, Tate et al) warps young brains about war.
Come on. This answer is a cop out. If your thesis is true, there would be WAY more young men volunteering to right. 10-20% is your napkin math? Yeah, fucking right. Young dudes love pretending to be tough on social media but 99% of them are fucking pussies raised by overbearing mothers.
Very few people want to die for an intentionally and knowingly lost cause, especially if it has very little effect on what they consider important in their own lives.
The premise of the article is based on another article about random dudes on Twitter being willing to follower an influencer and invade Haiti.
Can you not see the difference?
To be clear, I don't think anyone is actually invading Haiti for the exact same reasons. But yes, I suppose one could be dumb enough to think they're going to enjoy the 'spoils' from invading Haiti in a way they wouldn't fighting in the other war, but ultimately, it still makes no sense that so few people are willing to go fight in the Ukraine if 'hundreds of thousands of young men' think they're going to invade Haiti. The entire premise is stupid, and not true.
God, you are full of excuses.
In every war you are cannon fodder for the arsetocrats.
To fight some fake psyop faggot war for some fuckers on on the other side of the world!!! NO! Stop you're faggotry and dumbass excuses to the issue at hand. Young men shouldn't need to merc up for some fucked up war of foreigners. They should fight to defend what's already theirs and is broken.
Nice bit of gobbing off here.
Why didn’t you join thousands of other blokes who went to Ukraine ?
Honking dits about how Simon Mann can’t even give you an answer as if you are a Trojan awaiting the Greeks who have yet to arrive. Get a grip you fucking crow.
I can give you one right now, go in the search browser “Ukrainian foreign legion”. Hundreds of blokes are out on the ground today.
Fly into krakow on an easyJet flight from London for under £100. You’ll be in the battle space rapid, if you have the SF experience you hint at.
I know you are a yank but that’s the flight path most of them took out Ukraine anyway (more proof you a waffler, there is many a yank in Ukraine)
All a blag writing like this is.
Have you fought mma ? Have you fought on the rough amateur boxing circuit ? Have you gone to Georgia to train wresting ? Have you joined an AC who are always punching on with the reds ?
Another fucking crow who has watched fight club, the only people who write this are the ones who can’t see the simple solutions in front of them.
Riding the tiger as it were is easy, it’s just blokes avoid what’s in front of them and ask on Substack for something more obscure.
The give away for me was the mention of lord miles and Haiti. Fuck me dead.
I would put a months wages on it 85% of those men never been punched in the face, never been outside for longer than a night.
They are all internet people, blaggers. You are one of them.
Y9ull have to settle on beinga post apocalyptic war lord in the coming dark ages. You are gonna have to raid for food and gas like the Vikings
Actually, every man worth his salt felt this urge in his youth.
Please just grow up. Violence breeds violence and real valour is adding beauty to the world. When children are developing they love knocking things over. It takes years before they learn to create something. Look at the before and after pictures of the places that have been destroyed by war. Look at the peoples faces. I’m sure you can all find a way to create a life of challenge and achievement without destroying others.
War , particularly modern war is horrendous no one denies that, but it is and always will be part of human life and that being so , men who understand the martial aspect of existence are essential.
As I guessed , you have done the workshop thing.
The stuff about aboriginals never fighting wars over land is an indigenous white wash (no pun intended) of their history and is simply not true. Early settlers documented numerous examples, as did anthropologists in the mid-late 19c. Their culture had many unsavoury aspects , well documented of sexual abuse(still endemic in their culture),infanticide, even cannibalism. Most likely you consider all this as fiction as only white men do bad stuff and they lie about the unsavoury aspects of aboriginal life.
They also claim to have fought “wars” against white men as well(though a dozen or people fighting isolated skirmishes hardly constitutes a war)
Try going for a stroll through Alice Springs after dark.
War comes from trauma. Most of human history has no war and especially not in the death profit industry that is now the biggest cause of climate catastrophe. You obviously know nothing about traditional aboriginal culture or philosophy or lore. It’s very sophisticated. I suggest you not only look at Tyson Yunkaporta but also Mary Graham. The Australian Aboriginal people managed to make space for the climate refugees after the end of the last iceage. Ceremonies are still performed for the land under the sea 12,000 years after it was inundated. Like many indigenous people the Australians were horrified at the cruelty of the British, not only to the locals but to other British people. British culture was very violent. A 19 century book called ‘Wife torture’ showed how hideous it was to be married. We can say war is always with us and continue the violence or try something else. Glasgow treated violence as a communical disease and were successful in helping prevent it spreading. We can learn and change.
Wars are fought over land, resources, money, power and numerous other things , trauma has nothing to do with it by comparison. You have invested what ever meagre mental resources you have on western middle class psychological bullshit and listening to similarly fake aboriginal bullshit.
Lol. We’re changing back into Men, you Boomer Insects.
Profound and erudite response.
Indeed I have had believe me a truly Catholic Education, and Curriculum Vitae.
Now pass on. Fear not Hell, not even they want you.
The world isn’t an art workshop unfortunately, and while there isn’t a western country worth fighting for , war is a fact of life. I have never been in a war , never wanted to , marched against the Vietnam war, and had a low opinion of military men.
Late in my professional life I worked with a lot of ex military men and without exception was impressed with their disciplined approach to work and life, their professionalism, ability to concentrate on and execute a task and their commonsense. Outside of these men, the fore mentioned qualities were not so common.
When your comfortable existence and is threatened, it is only these sort of men, you are so contemptuous of, that can protect it, your much vaunted “emotional maturity” won’t be worth a cracker. Get a perspective read a history book on WW2 as lived by ordinary people in Europe.
Maybe you could even do a workshop on the theme.
You make a lot of assumptions about me. I grew up around people who fought in the Second World War. My parents were children in the UK during it. My grandfather died of exposure to gas after the First World War. I knew partners of Vietnam vets. People who fought in the Angolan independence war and the Falkland war. People who survived Bosnia. Someone who ran yoga classes for veterans of all wars to help with their PTSD. We must outgrow war. Judith Herman in her book Trauma and Recovery mentions the interlinking of childhood trauma, war trauma and sexual abuse trauma. Tyson Yunkaporta in his book Sand Talk explained how indigenous Australians never fought about land. Their culture had many mechanisms to stop them. When they did fight the Victor had to receive the same injuries he’d inflicted on his opponent. A veteran from the First World War who witnessed this said he wished the same thing had been in place in Europe.
Crap. Children build and create all the time. Palour is in doing what is noble even if it results in your personal end. Do what is right for others... no matter what
Developmentally children knock things down before developing creative skills. I saw this with my own kids. Growing up takes effort and patience. A huge part of this is developing an emotional understanding of themselves and others. That leads to cooperation which is a foundation for a healthy society. Alternatively getting older without having the emotional maturity results in people flinging their undigested emotions onto others and expecting to be catered to. This is a recipe for frustration, violence and destruction.
Have your opinion, but don't call it "valor."
Why do none of your replies make sense? 🤣
No. You lie.
He is grown up.
He’s coming for what’s his. This is like a conversation on the Gaza Fence the day before lol.
Enjoy the peace rave tomorrow 🤣
Get therapy
Fran- Kindly Die to get out of the way. Or not.
Ta.
Excellent article, it resonates with many of my own experiences in the modern Army.
My only caveat — some of my friends have found what they're looking for in Azov or other elite Ukrainian units. One only has to look at the vast amount of trench assault footage to see that glory in combat is still alive.
This is fair, I know a few guys who went to Ukraine and found some. My only fear is that the conflict will be over by the time I could go.
I can't help but comment. You write this article, and you fail to mention the opportunity of Ukraine. And then you comment that you don't want to go because the war might be over too soon? Do you think one dude from the US is going to make a political difference to that war? No. Do you want adventure and the opportunity to prove your mettle? Then go! I'm 49 and was in the Canadian military - I wouldn't have gone when I was younger. That doesn't make me a pussy. I signed up to fight for my country. Period. I can tell you I wouldn't have written an article pissing and moaning about not fighting in a war and finding adventure while a full on war is happening in Europe that involves the Russians. You've got some balls.
Better get going then
Author, yet another excuse for you.
There are real battles to fight and adventures EVERYWHERE... there are causes to suffer and sacrifice yourself for and to prove your mettle as man... and yet you lack the vision to see. Your complaints are nothing new, and I hope your eyes are opened before it is too late.
Balls. 💩 Go light a candle and STFU. I am of course Catholic. Good thing for “Christendom” some MEN were willing to risk mortal sin by killing in war. Until 1095 that is…
There’s a reason Islam makes “Shirk” a mortal sin.
Peace be with you brother. I will
light one for you.
You're literally just a fascist.
“Just?” 🧐
That you don't understand why that's a shit thing is such an incredible stain upon your person you cannot honestly consider yourself an educated man. Eat a bullet
Honestly bot can you get a better coder?
You think its rough now? I joined in the 80s and Australia was determined to punish its military for Vietnam. Eventually I served as an unpaid volunteer in Burma.
Interesting piece. unlike some others, I don't see you advocating for war and bloodshed or whatever. you're merely describing the human condition as it exists in young men, and has existed since sapiens came into being, and will always exist.
I'm 52 and I get it.
I'm getting some notes together to write a piece about my uncle who ran away from postwar occupied Europe and joined the French Foreign Legion to start his life, which led to many more adventures.
Stunning work. Brings me great relief to see my own views so well articulated and laid out in this piece.
To know there are others who have come to this same conclusion about our world is a breath of fresh air and while we do toil in it for now, the call for freedom and adventure is alive and well in the souls of men who want to have it.
Credit you sir, you have earned a subscriber and a restack.
Respectfully,
Crusader
Appreciate it thank you Sir.